Sep 26, 2016
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Is Podcasting A Ponzi Scheme?
I got an email from a friend of mine who has kind of "had it"
He said, " I have recently done some calculations and have come
to the conclusion that the hours spent podcasting would be better
spent doing other things, like narrating audio books and maybe even
some work around the house. I am doing a weekly video show via
Skype, being streamed live on YouTube. I use Wirecast to make
it look professional, and I have been releasing the audio as a
podcast. I stopped the podcast side this week.
I said when I started podcasting a couple of years ago, I
would do a serious review at the two-year mark, and have concluded
that while I have learned much I will be using for audiobooks, and
am glad I did it, to continue would be a waste of time. Here's the
part you probably won't agree with:
In the 80's Amway came through this area, and a lot of people
joined and got hyped up (me included). After a while, it became
clear that a lot of people at the top were making money, but it
depended on a constant supply of fresh "believers" to fuel their
incomes. People who started early were making money, but the
thousands below were being Nickle and dimed and were doing
nothing but financing those above. It worked as long as everyone
believed they could make it.
Podcasting today is a similar type of pyramid structure, where
everyone who started before 2007 or 2008 are making an income off
of the believers below. (I find your motives pure, and I appreciate
that.) It is VERY important for those below the median numbers
(Around 120 according to Rob), to believe there is no discovery
problem. That way they keep paying their $20 a month to Libsyn,
buying books, Wordpress plugins, and tools for podcasting and going
No matter how good your content is, the average basement
independent has about 0% chance of ever being heard the first time
by hardly anyone who doesn't know them already or is only 1 or
2 degrees separated. This is simply due to saturation.
The main people who make it now either are famous already, are
starting a full-time business that happens to involve podcasting
and has 6 figures to invest, like JLD, or are part of the corporate
invasion. There may be an isolated incident here and there where it
happens, but it so rare it doesn't bear mentioning. It is simply
too late for the average independent show by a person working a
full-time job to make an impact beyond a few niche listeners.
I was also dismayed to find the same "entrepreneurs," using
many of the same books, and the same hype milking the same types of
people. There is a sucker born every minute. They find them, use
them, discard them, and move one since there are always more
suckers on the internet. An example: a well-known personality in
podcasting who was putting out yet another book solicited all of us
to submit articles for it. We of course, had to buy the book to see
if were in it. We weren't. Not one of us. The book had already been
written and included older interviews that happened long before he
solicited for articles. He simply lied to get us to buy the book.
It worked, and we were the suckers. Well, fool me once, shame on
you, fool me twice, shame on me.
I calculated how many listeners I would have if gained one new
one each month, and how many hours I would spend editing and
putting out the content I already have from the video show. My
conclusion: I hope to retire in 3
years or so. 36 new listeners. Over 600 hours
of podcast editing during that time. BTW, I am not getting 1
new listener a month.
Contrast this with the one audio book I have narrated so far.
It didn't sell. Only 11 copies so far. I have made $50 from that.
What would happen if I spent those 600 hours over the next 3 years
doing audio books that don't sell, and get royalties for the next 7
years on each?
Allow me to soften this by saying I have always found you and
your efforts on behalf of the little guy podcasters to be the most
honest and trustworthy of all. Your human-ness and transparency is
wonderful, and I would love to spend time with you in person but
neither of us have that time to devote to it. Thank you for all you
have done and you continue to do for us bottom feeders. POWER TO
In looking at your stuff here would be my comment.
I'm not I would've put everything into one stream. I
understand the extra cost, but I wouldn't have done it that way. I
knew the name of your show and couldn't find it because all of your
shows were under the name of the network in iTunes. That is a
recipe for failure. It's hard enough to find a show when the name
I'm sure you found putting out so many episodes was a LOT of
work. Anyone who starts out and gets no money in return (if
that is the goal) means, "lots of work with $0 = burnout."
The bottom line (boiling it down) is the same reason I do
podcasting over playing in a band. The band is days (months) of
work for $50 if I'm lucky. If I practice two hours a week for six
months to learn enough songs and do that for year that is 104 hours
of practice. But wait, each gig is 4 hours. If we play every other
weekend for ten months that is twenty gigs so another eighty hours
(184 hours total). Those twenty gigs pay $50 each (20X50 )= 1000.
1000/184 =$5.34 an hour. If I say I "play for free" and
remove the 80 hours of performing (and loading gear) that is still
$9.64 an hour.
I'd rather stay home, not put up with drunks, and save my back
and make more (or less) the same kind of money.
Some reports that 80%
of businesses don't make it, others
don't make it.
When I look at someone like John Lee Dumas he is the poster
child for "Yes you can make money with a podcast." In the same way
that the Beatles are the "Yes you can make money in music," not
everyone with a guitar and long hair is the Beatles.
I don't believe there is a discovery problem. There
wasn't a discovery problem for the Serial Podcast. Liz Covert at
World has over 1 million downloads and she only has
100 episodes. She doesn't have a team.
I agree that a ton of podcasts are coming out each week, but
when a horse race starts, there are tons of horses coming out of
the gate. Someone is going to win.
The Recipe of a Successful Podcast
1. Know who your audience is and what they want.
2. Give it to them on a consistent basis
3. Go to where they are (get out from behind
4. Make friends with them.
5. Tell them about your podcast.
You said, "It is simply too late for the average independent
show by a person working a full-time job to make an impact beyond a
few niche listeners. " Podcast is only consumed by 30% of the
planet. We are just getting warmed up.
Used in this Episode (in no order )
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